Chris, Sharif, and Ismael explore the historical roots and evolution of public education in the United States. They discuss the origins of public education, racist foundations of educational psychology and the impact of white supremacist ideologies on the development of education in the United States.

The conversation also highlights the contributions of Black educators and leaders who created schools that combined self-reliance and intellectual development. The conversation explores the impact of icons like W.E.B. Du Bois and Booker T. Washington on black education.

Finally, the guys talk about the compliance-driven nature of the education system and whether or not we are fostering critical thinking in the classroom.